TheGaggle
Politics • Culture • News
Our community is made up of those who value the freedom of speech, the right to debate and the promise of open, honest conversations.

We don't agree on everything but we never silence our followers and value every opinion on our channel.
Interested? Want to learn more about the community?
September 10, 2022
The One and Only--Slobodan Milošević At The ICTY Part II

The International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia was a creature of NATO. This is something NATO boasted about. As such, its job was to exonerate and justify NATO, as well as NATO's allies in the Balkans, while reserving its full penal wrath against NATO's official enemy--the Serbs of Bosnia-Herzegovina, the Serbs of Croatia and of course the Serbs of Serbia.

The ICTY's chief target was Slobodan Milošević--the "head Serb," to use Richard Holbrooke's derogatory characterization. It excitedly put him on trial, charging him with genocide, crimes against humanity and for responsibility for every calamity that befell Yugoslavia from the 1980s on. With typical NATO, and U.S. and British arrogance, the ICTY failed to appreciate how clever and skillful Milošević would prove to be. Everything ICTY prosecutors threw at him, he disdainfully threw back at them. He showed up their ignorance as well as the absurdity of their convoluted legal theories. And then suddenly--he died, in ICTY custody.

Here is Milošević attempting to cross-examine General Wesley Clark, Supreme Allied Commander in Europe during NATO's 1999 bombing campaign. He it was who was responsible for the bombing of the refugee convoys, the marketplaces, the hospitals, the old age pensioners' homes, the passenger trains, the television stations and of course the Chinese embassy. The ICTY went out of its way to protect Clark from any probing cross-examination. Count the number of times "Judge" May interrupts Milošević.

One more thing: Many very stupid people on the antiwar Right and Left seized on a remark Wesley Clark made in 2003 that he had been told in November 2001 that the Bush administration was planning to attack seven Muslim states.

Game, Set and Match! High-fives, everybody! That's it--proof positive of what he had known all along about the evils of George W. Bush.

There is a particular kind of stupid that makes a home among the antiwar crowd. Its members are ready to forget everything they were supposed to have learned from experience just in order to score some silly debaters' points. Let me disabuse these silly children. Wesley Clark lied over and over again during the 1999 campaign. Thus, nothing he says should be believed unless it comes with convincing documentation. This of course Clark has failed to provide,

Clark made no mention of this 2001 Bush "plan" until 2003 when he began to plan his deceitful campaign for president in 2003. (It was deceitful because his goal all along was to pretend to be "anti-war" in order to defeat any genuine "anti-war" candidate seeking the Democratic Party nomination.) Clark never named the general who supposedly informed him about this Bush "plan." And Clark never presented any record of this "memo" he claimed to have seen.

What Clark was doing was obvious: The 2004 presidential election was on the horizon. The Iraq war was becoming very unpopular, and there was a serious danger that the Democrats would nominate an "anti-Iraq war" candidate. George McGovern's quixotic and hopeless 1972 campaign loomed large in the imagination of media and political establishment. What better way to head off this nightmare than to rally behind a pseudo-"antiwar" candidate such as Wesley Clark? You would have to be really stupid to believe that Clark would bring the U.S. intervention in Iraq to an end. But stupid is as stupid does, and many people were taken in by Clark's campaign--and particularly by his uncorroborated claims about secret Bush "plans."

Clark accomplished his mission. He knocked out of consideration Howard Dean who, incidentally, was also fraudulently posing as the "antiwar" candidate.

Anyway, enjoy Milošević. His cleverness, his humor and his bravery should never be forgotten.

00:31:26
Interested? Want to learn more about the community?
What else you may like…
Videos
Posts
Articles
September 15, 2025
The Gaggle Music Club: Brahms’s Piano Quartet in G minor, As Orchestrated By Arnold Schoenberg

This week's selection for The Gaggle Music Club is Brahms’s Piano Quartet in G minor, Op. 25, as orchestrated by Arnold Schoenberg.

Johannes Brahms composed his Piano Quartet in G minor, Op. 25, between 1856 and 1861. It is understandable why Schoenberg was eager to orchestrate it. The quartet is a dramatic and expansive chamber work. It is made up of four movements, culminating in the famous “Rondo alla Zingarese.” Clara Schumann, Brahms’s lifelong friend and confidante, had described the piano quartet as “symphonic in breadth and power.” According to her, the quartet’s length (almost 50 minutes), the weight of its four movements and the sheer intensity of the piano part went beyond the intimate scope of chamber music.

The quartet premiered in Hamburg in 1861, with Clara herself playing the piano part in subsequent performances. Even before Schoenberg, musicians had made attempts to turn the quartet into a symphonic work. Friedrich Hermann (a Leipzig violinist and arranger) ...

00:48:43
Live Chat
September 15, 2025
Monday Night At The Movies: "L'Avventura" (1960)

Join Gagglers for "L'Avventura"!
The screening starts at 3 p.m. ET sharp.
Share all of your thoughts, comments and criticisms on the Live Chat.

02:23:06
September 14, 2025
TG 1968: U.S. Shows Contempt Toward Qatar; Israel Contempt Toward Qatar And U.S.

George Szamuely and Peter Lavelle discuss U.S. Security of State Marco Rubio's visit to Israel, and what that demonstrates about the Trump administration's real attitude toward Israel's attack on Doha, Qatar, an act that had supposedly enraged the president himself.

01:01:20
September 17, 2025
Monday Night At The Movies

Please choose which one of the following 8 movies you would like to have screened next Monday, Sept. 22.

The theme is "shaking up the convention of the Whodunit--calling into question who's victim, who's suspect, who's investigator."

Please continue to vote after Sept. 22, so that we can determine the runner-up. The runner-up will be screened on Sept. 29.

September 16, 2025

Oy vey, Fritz
Teary Merz declares ‘war’ on antisemitism

Friedrich Merz grew visibly emotional at the commemoration of a rebuilt synagogue in Munich last night. The Reichenbachstrasse shul was all but destroyed in the Nazi pogroms of 1938. The German chancellor praised the building as "an expression of Jewish vitality in Germany."

Recalling the memoirs of the woman who initiated the reconstruction, Merz cited her haunting childhood question: “Had no one helped the Jews?”

Merz said he was “appalled” by a resurgence of antisemitism in Germany, calling “Never again” both a duty and a promise. He argued that his country had too often ignored how many newcomers arrived from places where antisemitism is “a state doctrine.”

“From this place I declare war, on behalf of the entire German government, on every form of old and new antisemitism in Germany,” Merz said.

7SEES
@7SEES_
·
3 h
While everyone continues to argue about Charlie Kirk, Technocracy and BioDigital Convergence continues.

Hate Speech Laws to "own the left"
Digital ID to "stop illegals"
Stablecoins Scams for "financial freedom"
AI "just a tool"
H1B filled Data Centers for "American Jobs"
Biometric Databases to "stop terrorists"

It's no wonder every generation before us fell for things like the moon landing and 9/11.

People are retarded.

Defending their favorite internet personalities, while the actual decision makers continue pressing the boot.
Citat
Disclose.tv
@disclosetv
·
5 h
NOW - Trump and Starmer sign U.S.-UK "Tech Prosperity Deal." U.S. firms, led by Microsoft, including BlackRock, Nvidia, OpenAI, Oracle, Amazon, and CoreWeave, will invest $42 billion in the UK to develop AI for healthcare, quantum computing, and nuclear projects.

Republicans against Trump
@RpsAgainstTrump
Trump, in his inauguration speech:

“I will also sign an executive order to immediately stop ...

January 21, 2023
More Leftie Than Thou
"Jacobin" Magazine Celebrates A Strike Against Ol' Blue Eyes

Here at "The Gaggle" we have very little time for the "more Leftie than thou" school of thought--that's the approach to life according to which the only thing that matters is whether you take the right position on every issue under the sun from Abortion to Zelensky. No one in the world meets the exacting standards of this school of thought; any Leftie leader anywhere is always selling out to the bankers and the capitalists. The perfect exemplar of this is the unreadable Jacobin magazine. 

The other day I came across this article from 2021. It's a celebration of trade union power. And not simply trade union power, but the use of trade union power to secure political goals. Of course (and this is always the case with the "more Leftie than thou" crowd), this glorious, never-to-be-forgotten moment on the history of organized labor took place many years ago--in the summer of 1974 to be exact. Yes, almost half a century has gone by since that thrilling moment when the working-class movement of Australia mobilized and prepared to seize the means of production, distribution and exchange. 

Well, not quite. Organized labor went into action against...Ol' Blue Eyes, the Chairman of the Board, the Voice; yes, Frank Sinatra. Why? What had Sinatra done? Sinatra was certainly very rich, and he owned a variety of properties and businesses. But if the Australian trade union movement were, understandably, searching for the bright, incandescent spark that would finally awaken the working class from its slumber there were surely richer, greedier, more dishonest, more decadent, above all more Australian individuals it could have discovered. Australia was never short of them. Rupert Murdoch immediately springs to mind. Why Sinatra?

 

Only for Supporters
To read the rest of this article and access other paid content, you must be a supporter
Read full Article
See More
Available on mobile and TV devices
google store google store app store app store
google store google store app tv store app tv store amazon store amazon store roku store roku store
Powered by Locals